FFL players you do not want to draft?

[Hyped]

Going into every draft, I have a list of players I simply will not draft or want to avoid drafting at their ADP (average draft position). For example, in 2004 I drafted Curtis Martin in round 1 because I was picking at the end of round 1 and he was simply too much value to pass up....so drafted him and traded him ASAP. Here's my list for 2024:

AFC EAST:
Aaron Rodgers - Won't touch him because he is a Jete. I'd draft him only if it were at the end of the draft and I still did not have a 2nd QB.
Breece Hall - Another stinking Jete...but if he is there in the mid-2nd...FINE just for trade bait.
Garrett Wilson - Same as above, but maybe 5th round....
Mike Williams - Not even at all....injury history and the stinking Jet thing...

Josh Allen - A Dildo....4th round? OK, fine.
James Cook - A Dildo, but still a RB....so I say....9th round.
Kincaid - A Dildo, but a TE....so I say....7th round.

Tyreek Hill - Never liked him and he is a Dullphin...would draft at the bottom of the 2nd though.
Jaylen Waddle - Nah....maybe 8th round if at all...
Tua Tagovailoa - Nah....not at all...I'd probably take Rodgers at his ADP before I take Tua at his.

Any Patriots player EXCEPT for the Patriots defense...the only exceptions I ever made were Randy Moss and Rob Gronkowski. Basically, on Sundays...I want to root for a TD...not the TYPE of TD. That is why I love the Patriots D....my favorite FFL player of all time...try to get that D in ALL OF MY LEAGUES. On Sundays when the Pats D has a pick six....I am like 5X happier!


Baltimore: Mark Andrews. I feel that he won't feast on targets this year...more of a split with Likely...and with Lamar/Henry being the focus of the offense.
Cincinnati: Chase Evans or Zack Moss....not sure how that RB room will work out.
Cleveland: DeShaun Watson...he hasn't produced in the last two years (side note, I'd be all over Chubb in deeper leagues later in the draft).
Pittsburgh: Russ Wilson....who wants to roll the dice on that shit show from Denver?

Houston: Stefon Diggs....Nico Collins and Tank Dell....and even Mixon catches balls now and then too...
Indianapolis: I'd draft all Colts players at their ADPs with the exception of maybe Josh Downs.
Jacksonville: Trevor Lawrence...just because there likely will be better options to draft.
Tennessee: Tyjae Spears/Tony Pollard...not sure how that share will work out...probably the same as in big D with Spears being EE's "Thunder".

Kansas City: Rasheed Rice and Marquise Brown. These guys are being drafted too high, IMO. Kelce is the #1 receiver and Worthy is the big play receiver, IMO.
Las Vegas: Mineshew....obvious reasons...better options. And Zamir White...not sold on him yet...but OK to draft if he is there late, IMO.
Los Angeles (C): I don't think anyone on this roster has an ADP that is too high. Some guys I like include Gus Edwards/J.K. Dobbins/Joshua Palmer LATE.
Broncos: No one on the roster has an ADP too high for my tastes as well.

Dallas: Brandin Cooks maybe especially if Tolbert steps up.....and Rico Dowdle....just not convinced that EE is done.
Washington: Brian Robinson.... my money is on Ekeler and his receptions. Ertz as well...I think Sinnott might leapfrog him.
New York (G): Daniel Jones....yeah...he has potential of being a top 10 FFL QB with Nabers...but I am not drafting him.
Eagles: All are worth their ADP's and I'd ignore Kenneth Gainwell unless you needed a Barkely handcuff.

Packers: All of their WR's. Let someone else draft those guys while you target Josh Jacobs (contract year...sort of).
Vikings: Addison....could be disciplined by the league and might miss 1-2 weeks. Ditto for Hockenson...it takes 2 years to really come back from an injury like that.
Bears: D.J. Moore.....yeah..he's the alpha dog...but Keenan Allen and Rome Odunze are pretty good ya know?
Lions: Gibbs....a bit worried about him being dinged up and the rest of the offense being loaded.

Bucs: Rachaad White....I don't think he'll have similar volume as last year...272 carries...and he is being drafted in round 3ish...a bit high for my tastes.
Panthers: Bryce Young and Adam Thielen. Want to see if Bryce Young can play first...and Thielen is on his last legs. Also, I don't like Chubba Hubbard much as well.
Falcons: Drake London.....I don't see him as a top 10 WR....JUST YET. He is being drafted as a top 10.
Saints: Kamara.....I'd let him be someone else's problem. Gonna be a boom or bust pick....not worth your 3rd/4th rounder in a redraft league, IMO.

Seahawks: Tyler Lockett....now I drafted him in one league, but only cuz I had a RB heavy roster and needed a WR late. Lockett is good, but he's the #3 WR.
Niners: Kittle....just not feeling the Kittle magic of old in the last 2 years. CMC, Aiyuk, and Deebo eat before he does.
Rams: Kyren Williams.....just being drafted too high, IMO. Corum is waiting on the sidelines. But if your league has return yardage scoring....
Cardinals: Trey McBride....yeah..his 2023 2nd half was goddamn impressive, but I need to see more of that.


Which players are on your lists and why?

 

[Lord Chevy]

Going into every draft, I have a list of players I simply will not draft or want to avoid drafting at their ADP (average draft position). For example, in 2004 I drafted Curtis Martin in round 1 because I was picking at the end of round 1 and he was simply too much value to pass up....so drafted him and traded him ASAP. Here's my list for 2024:

AFC EAST:
Aaron Rodgers - Won't touch him because he is a Jete. I'd draft him only if it were at the end of the draft and I still did not have a 2nd QB.
Breece Hall - Another stinking Jete...but if he is there in the mid-2nd...FINE just for trade bait.
Garrett Wilson - Same as above, but maybe 5th round....
Mike Williams - Not even at all....injury history and the stinking Jet thing...

Josh Allen - A Dildo....4th round? OK, fine.
James Cook - A Dildo, but still a RB....so I say....9th round.
Kincaid - A Dildo, but a TE....so I say....7th round.

Tyreek Hill - Never liked him and he is a Dullphin...would draft at the bottom of the 2nd though.
Jaylen Waddle - Nah....maybe 8th round if at all...
Tua Tagovailoa - Nah....not at all...I'd probably take Rodgers at his ADP before I take Tua at his.

Any Patriots player EXCEPT for the Patriots defense...the only exceptions I ever made were Randy Moss and Rob Gronkowski. Basically, on Sundays...I want to root for a TD...not the TYPE of TD. That is why I love the Patriots D....my favorite FFL player of all time...try to get that D in ALL OF MY LEAGUES. On Sundays when the Pats D has a pick six....I am like 5X happier!


Baltimore: Mark Andrews. I feel that he won't feast on targets this year...more of a split with Likely...and with Lamar/Henry being the focus of the offense.
Cincinnati: Chase Evans or Zack Moss....not sure how that RB room will work out.
Cleveland: DeShaun Watson...he hasn't produced in the last two years (side note, I'd be all over Chubb in deeper leagues later in the draft).
Pittsburgh: Russ Wilson....who wants to roll the dice on that shit show from Denver?

Houston: Stefon Diggs....Nico Collins and Tank Dell....and even Mixon catches balls now and then too...
Indianapolis: I'd draft all Colts players at their ADPs with the exception of maybe Josh Downs.
Jacksonville: Trevor Lawrence...just because there likely will be better options to draft.
Tennessee: Tyjae Spears/Tony Pollard...not sure how that share will work out...probably the same as in big D with Spears being EE's "Thunder".

Kansas City: Rasheed Rice and Marquise Brown. These guys are being drafted too high, IMO. Kelce is the #1 receiver and Worthy is the big play receiver, IMO.
Las Vegas: Mineshew....obvious reasons...better options. And Zamir White...not sold on him yet...but OK to draft if he is there late, IMO.
Los Angeles (C): I don't think anyone on this roster has an ADP that is too high. Some guys I like include Gus Edwards/J.K. Dobbins/Joshua Palmer LATE.
Broncos: No one on the roster has an ADP too high for my tastes as well.

Dallas: Brandin Cooks maybe especially if Tolbert steps up.....and Rico Dowdle....just not convinced that EE is done.
Washington: Brian Robinson.... my money is on Ekeler and his receptions. Ertz as well...I think Sinnott might leapfrog him.
New York (G): Daniel Jones....yeah...he has potential of being a top 10 FFL QB with Nabers...but I am not drafting him.
Eagles: All are worth their ADP's and I'd ignore Kenneth Gainwell unless you needed a Barkely handcuff.

Packers: All of their WR's. Let someone else draft those guys while you target Josh Jacobs (contract year...sort of).
Vikings: Addison....could be disciplined by the league and might miss 1-2 weeks. Ditto for Hockenson...it takes 2 years to really come back from an injury like that.
Bears: D.J. Moore.....yeah..he's the alpha dog...but Keenan Allen and Rome Odunze are pretty good ya know?
Lions: Gibbs....a bit worried about him being dinged up and the rest of the offense being loaded.

Bucs: Rachaad White....I don't think he'll have similar volume as last year...272 carries...and he is being drafted in round 3ish...a bit high for my tastes.
Panthers: Bryce Young and Adam Thielen. Want to see if Bryce Young can play first...and Thielen is on his last legs. Also, I don't like Chubba Hubbard much as well.
Falcons: Drake London.....I don't see him as a top 10 WR....JUST YET. He is being drafted as a top 10.
Saints: Kamara.....I'd let him be someone else's problem. Gonna be a boom or bust pick....not worth your 3rd/4th rounder in a redraft league, IMO.

Seahawks: Tyler Lockett....now I drafted him in one league, but only cuz I had a RB heavy roster and needed a WR late. Lockett is good, but he's the #3 WR.
Niners: Kittle....just not feeling the Kittle magic of old in the last 2 years. CMC, Aiyuk, and Deebo eat before he does.
Rams: Kyren Williams.....just being drafted too high, IMO. Corum is waiting on the sidelines. But if your league has return yardage scoring....
Cardinals: Trey McBride....yeah..his 2023 2nd half was goddamn impressive, but I need to see more of that.


Which players are on your lists and why?

FFL = no players are off limits to me. If I lose an FFL matchup, and the result is a plus for the real Patriots - great. If I win an FFL matchup, and the result is a minus for the Patriots, it was a minus with or without me playing FFL.

 

[Kontradiction]

I had Diggs last year and he trailed off badly toward the end of the season. Hard to tell if he hit a wall, quit, got frozen out of the new system, or what. But, with the weapons Houston has, I’d probably stay away from Diggs when considering all that. Stroud is going to spread that ball around this year.

 

[Dingleberry]

Kelce-Swift. Clot shot faggot.

 

[Hyped]

I had Diggs last year and he trailed off badly toward the end of the season. Hard to tell if he hit a wall, quit, got frozen out of the new system, or what. But, with the weapons Houston has, I’d probably stay away from Diggs when considering all that. Stroud is going to spread that ball around this year.

A lot had to do with Brady taking over play calling....and favoring the run more too...

 

[Beers]

To me it's mostly about ADP. There are plenty of players I would roster but not at their draft price. Like Marvin Harrison JR at the 1-2 turn, NOPE he's going to need to break records to return value. I'm out on Diggs at his ADP, Justin Jefferson is not going to be on my teams unless he falls to the 2nd round. Other guys I'm not drafting unless they freefall for a while, Keenan Allen, LaPorta, Flowers, G. Wilson to name a few. I want a top 10 QB do I'm not bothering with Rodgers, late in drafts I'd MUCH rather have Goff, or Cousins, both play indoors and have the two easiest schedules this year.

That is all for season-long format. Best Ball I will draft everyone because i'm trying to get exposure to them all. Easiest way to lose BB is to draft way too much of one player and they get injured and ruin all your teams.

Also another note, ADT varies greatly between different sites. I already know some guys on ESPN that are WAY different than DK or Sleeper.

 

[Hyped]

Going into every draft, I have a list of players I simply will not draft or want to avoid drafting at their ADP (average draft position). For example, in 2004 I drafted Curtis Martin in round 1 because I was picking at the end of round 1 and he was simply too much value to pass up....so drafted him and traded him ASAP. Here's my list for 2024:

AFC EAST:
Aaron Rodgers - Won't touch him because he is a Jete. I'd draft him only if it were at the end of the draft and I still did not have a 2nd QB.
Breece Hall - Another stinking Jete...but if he is there in the mid-2nd...FINE just for trade bait.
Garrett Wilson - Same as above, but maybe 5th round....
Mike Williams - Not even at all....injury history and the stinking Jet thing...

Josh Allen - A Dildo....4th round? OK, fine.
James Cook - A Dildo, but still a RB....so I say....9th round.
Kincaid - A Dildo, but a TE....so I say....7th round.

Tyreek Hill - Never liked him and he is a Dullphin...would draft at the bottom of the 2nd though.
Jaylen Waddle - Nah....maybe 8th round if at all...
Tua Tagovailoa - Nah....not at all...I'd probably take Rodgers at his ADP before I take Tua at his.

Any Patriots player EXCEPT for the Patriots defense...the only exceptions I ever made were Randy Moss and Rob Gronkowski. Basically, on Sundays...I want to root for a TD...not the TYPE of TD. That is why I love the Patriots D....my favorite FFL player of all time...try to get that D in ALL OF MY LEAGUES. On Sundays when the Pats D has a pick six....I am like 5X happier!


Baltimore: Mark Andrews. I feel that he won't feast on targets this year...more of a split with Likely...and with Lamar/Henry being the focus of the offense.
Cincinnati: Chase Evans or Zack Moss....not sure how that RB room will work out.
Cleveland: DeShaun Watson...he hasn't produced in the last two years (side note, I'd be all over Chubb in deeper leagues later in the draft).
Pittsburgh: Russ Wilson....who wants to roll the dice on that shit show from Denver?

Houston: Stefon Diggs....Nico Collins and Tank Dell....and even Mixon catches balls now and then too...
Indianapolis: I'd draft all Colts players at their ADPs with the exception of maybe Josh Downs.
Jacksonville: Trevor Lawrence...just because there likely will be better options to draft.
Tennessee: Tyjae Spears/Tony Pollard...not sure how that share will work out...probably the same as in big D with Spears being EE's "Thunder".

Kansas City: Rasheed Rice and Marquise Brown. These guys are being drafted too high, IMO. Kelce is the #1 receiver and Worthy is the big play receiver, IMO.
Las Vegas: Mineshew....obvious reasons...better options. And Zamir White...not sold on him yet...but OK to draft if he is there late, IMO.
Los Angeles (C): I don't think anyone on this roster has an ADP that is too high. Some guys I like include Gus Edwards/J.K. Dobbins/Joshua Palmer LATE.
Broncos: No one on the roster has an ADP too high for my tastes as well.

Dallas: Brandin Cooks maybe especially if Tolbert steps up.....and Rico Dowdle....just not convinced that EE is done.
Washington: Brian Robinson.... my money is on Ekeler and his receptions. Ertz as well...I think Sinnott might leapfrog him.
New York (G): Daniel Jones....yeah...he has potential of being a top 10 FFL QB with Nabers...but I am not drafting him.
Eagles: All are worth their ADP's and I'd ignore Kenneth Gainwell unless you needed a Barkely handcuff.

Packers: All of their WR's. Let someone else draft those guys while you target Josh Jacobs (contract year...sort of).
Vikings: Addison....could be disciplined by the league and might miss 1-2 weeks. Ditto for Hockenson...it takes 2 years to really come back from an injury like that.
Bears: D.J. Moore.....yeah..he's the alpha dog...but Keenan Allen and Rome Odunze are pretty good ya know?
Lions: Gibbs....a bit worried about him being dinged up and the rest of the offense being loaded.

Bucs: Rachaad White....I don't think he'll have similar volume as last year...272 carries...and he is being drafted in round 3ish...a bit high for my tastes.
Panthers: Bryce Young and Adam Thielen. Want to see if Bryce Young can play first...and Thielen is on his last legs. Also, I don't like Chubba Hubbard much as well.
Falcons: Drake London.....I don't see him as a top 10 WR....JUST YET. He is being drafted as a top 10.
Saints: Kamara.....I'd let him be someone else's problem. Gonna be a boom or bust pick....not worth your 3rd/4th rounder in a redraft league, IMO.

Seahawks: Tyler Lockett....now I drafted him in one league, but only cuz I had a RB heavy roster and needed a WR late. Lockett is good, but he's the #3 WR.
Niners: Kittle....just not feeling the Kittle magic of old in the last 2 years. CMC, Aiyuk, and Deebo eat before he does.
Rams: Kyren Williams.....just being drafted too high, IMO. Corum is waiting on the sidelines. But if your league has return yardage scoring....
Cardinals: Trey McBride....yeah..his 2023 2nd half was goddamn impressive, but I need to see more of that.


Which players are on your lists and why?

After week 5:

- Called it on Mark Andrews.
- Called it on Brown/Moss in Cinncinnati.
- Called it on Watson.
- Called it on Russ Wilson.
- Sort of called it on Tank Dell.
- Was wrong about Rasheed Rice, but he's injured now.
- Wrong on Brian Robinson.
- Called it on Addison.
- Keenan Allen and Odunze haven't been as good as I expected.
- Called it on Drake London (he is ranked #11).
- Was wrong about Kamara's gas tank....
- Completely wrong about Kittle (#1 TE in FFL now)
- Completely wrong about Kyren Williams (but Nacua/Kupp have been out)
- Sort of right on McBride.... (Not #1 TE nor even in the top 5 yet)

 

[Beers]

After week 5:

- Called it on Mark Andrews.
- Called it on Brown/Moss in Cinncinnati.
- Called it on Watson.
- Called it on Russ Wilson.
- Sort of called it on Tank Dell.
- Was wrong about Rasheed Rice, but he's injured now.
- Wrong on Brian Robinson.
- Called it on Addison.
- Keenan Allen and Odunze haven't been as good as I expected.
- Called it on Drake London (he is ranked #11).
- Was wrong about Kamara's gas tank....
- Completely wrong about Kittle (#1 TE in FFL now)
- Completely wrong about Kyren Williams (but Nacua/Kupp have been out)
- Sort of right on McBride.... (Not #1 TE nor even in the top 5 yet)

Some good calls, it's still so early though on many.. Some will regress to the mean, others will be toast. This is important trade low/high time, call your shots on players.

 

[Beers]

Here ya go @Hyped ... who you dropping? I'm over the limit because I had to take White off my IR.

 

[Hyped]

I drop Gibson (did nothing last week) or if this isn't a keeper league...Legette. Maybe Chase Brown too......(best game was 15 carries...and had 3 receptions TWICE...and 2 TD's in one game).

And maybe even Tucker...if White is back in time for a big game vs. the Ravens...I think Tucker goes back to playing on ST's. Tucker is a #3 RB unless both Irving and White suck...

 

[Beers]

I drop Gibson (did nothing last week) or if this isn't a keeper league...Legette. Maybe Chase Brown too......(best game was 15 carries...and had 3 receptions TWICE...and 2 TD's in one game).

And maybe even Tucker...if White is back in time for a big game vs. the Ravens...I think Tucker goes back to playing on ST's. Tucker is a #3 RB unless both Irving and White suck...

Rham is going to be out again.. And I have no RB's, this is a 12 team keeper. There is literally nothing on waivers, I just spent 30 faab on Tucker just incase, and to also handcuff White. I ended up dropping Wilson, there are usually a couple WR's that can be picked up off waivers, RB's are hard to come by.. I think Tucker earned himself some playing time, at least that's what his coach said.

 

[Hyped]

Rham is going to be out again.. And I have no RB's, this is a 12 team keeper. There is literally nothing on waivers, I just spent 30 faab on Tucker just incase, and to also handcuff White. I ended up dropping Wilson, there are usually a couple WR's that can be picked up off waivers, RB's are hard to come by.. I think Tucker earned himself some playing time, at least that's what his coach said.

Rham is out? Hadn't heard...just got home tho...will check reports..

 

[Beers]

Rham is out? Hadn't heard...just got home tho...will check reports..

Not yet, but not at practice on a Thursday heading into the London game says probably not playing