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mock draft on sirius today by kirwan and miller has williams falling to the pats and them taking him.
There's no way Caleb Willliams falls to #3. I may be in the minority from what I've seen posted here, but he's going to be legit. I see him as a future All Pro with HOF potential
 
That is a great highlight reel!!! Wow!


Just as good as the Mac Jones highlight reel.

he does have natural arm strength, makes those long throws look effortless

he threw one completely off his back foot while going backwards, and still was able to laser it down field for a completion

the left handed touchdown throw was impressive as well

not on or off his bandwagon, but he seems multiple tiers above Mac Jones just in terms of arm talent
 
There's no way Caleb Willliams falls to #3. I may be in the minority from what I've seen posted here, but he's going to be legit. I see him as a future All Pro with HOF potential
You're not in the minority. Everyone who's team doesn't have the #1 pick has talked themselves out of Williams for months now. You're right on his potential - I think his floor is 'a'ight', which is miles better than any other QB in this draft.
 
So it looks like we are drafting Maye by what the tea leaves say
I really hope not. If Williams doesn't miraculously drop, leaving Harrison on the board is a mistake that the teams that let him sit there will pay for, for the next decade+.
 
You're not in the minority. Everyone who's team doesn't have the #1 pick has talked themselves out of Williams for months now. You're right on his potential - I think his floor is 'a'ight', which is miles better than any other QB in this draft.
There's some red flag potential in his character but talent and skills are there in spades. He does all the off-script stuff like Mahomes too, but he might be more physically talented. To me, his floor is Mahomes, who as we all know by now is a mediocre system QB who happens to be under a great coach.
 
There's some red flag potential in his character but talent and skills are there in spades. He does all the off-script stuff like Mahomes too, but he might be more physically talented. To me, his floor is Mahomes, who as we all know by now is a mediocre system QB who happens to be under a great coach.
Usually 'red flag potential in his character' is he's 'in a gang' or 'really likes to steal crab legs' or 'throws stolen laptops out the window when the cops show up'. Not 'cried after a tough game with his Mom, that just happened to be caught on camera'.
 
Usually 'red flag potential in his character' is he's 'in a gang' or 'really likes to steal crab legs' or 'throws stolen laptops out the window when the cops show up'. Not 'cried after a tough game with his Mom, that just happened to be caught on camera'.
If there was anything serious to worry about i'm sure it would be a bigger story and there wouldn't be a consensus (mostly) for #1. You never know though, Trevor Lawrence was a "generational" prospect who's basically average. Maybe he get's better but so far after 3 years it doesn't look like it.
 
You're not in the minority. Everyone who's team doesn't have the #1 pick has talked themselves out of Williams for months now. You're right on his potential - I think his floor is 'a'ight', which is miles better than any other QB in this draft.


The floor for Williams is "emotional midget who flames out".
 
If anyone's interested, NFL Network is showing the 2018 AFC Championship tomorrow at 3:30 PM EST. I'm going to be watching March Madness but have it scheduled to record on my DVR. It was the Patriots against the Chiefs. If I remember correctly the Patriots were victorious.
 
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