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If that's true, then the failure to move up into the first becomes even more problematic.
interesting list, i agree with most of it
Id probably put Milton Williams into the blue chip category, but fair to have him as HQ starter since he was surrounded by incredible talent along the line in Philly
Id also put Kyle Dugger under the Quality Starter category
Id put Baringer as QS as well, he was pretty good last year, and would put the rookie kicker in fringe starter category until proven
argument could be made for Keion White being QS as well
Things that stick out is the dramatic improvement of our offensive line (in theory) and WRs.. with excellent depth at RB
our secondary is looking real good
Really excited about this season.. compared to last season where it felt like we were a doormat team with very little potential outside of Drake Maye
TheRainMaker
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I agree with some, but not others.
Offense:
G: Cole Strange will have every opportunity to regain his starting job at G.
WR: Mac Hollins has no business starting outside. We really need to see Polk, Baker or Williams emerge.
Defense: I don't agree with the alignment. I think we'll see more of a base of 4 down line, 2 LB's, 2 CB's and 3 safeties. I do agree that Ellis will start and kick Tavai's playing time down tremendously.
DE: White/Chiasson
DT: Barmore
DT: Williams
EDGE/OLB: Landry
LB: Spillane
LB: Ellis
CB: Gonzalez
CB: Davis
FS: Hawkins/Epps or Woodson
SS: Peppers
Box S/LB: Dugger
Strange will have every opportunity to do it, but he will likely fuck it up.
According to reports I have heard, there was DEBATE in the room about possibly taking him by SOME in the room. The RB they took was preferred by most.
ItsGonnaBeMaye
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Henderson will make a far bigger impact in this league than the bust that Miami drafted.
For me, it's not about the specific player. I was hoping for a trade up to get Simmons, not this guy. But the underlying "issue" is the same, which is that if they blew their call because they didn't trade up, that's a problem.
The team had the ability to walk away from the first 3 rounds with OT/OT/C (and maybe another player, depending upon the cost of the move up), so that's where people should start focusing next season, when it comes to evaluating this draft. Was going OT/RB/WR/C the better play, is really the first big question to be asked about the new/"No, Really, it's still Elliot!" front office.
They didn't. There were different opinions in the room. By all accounts, getting this HR thread out of the backfield was the priority. And I would add that he would be more valuable to Maye than a backup o-lineman this season.
I also would have liked Simmons. However, there have been plenty of rumblings about him other than the injuries. Motivation and attitude. Whether bullshit or not, we can't assume the Patriots somehow failed by not trading up for him. They may not have wanted him.
Two things I learned today listening to various podcasts that are also well worth taking into account:
1. The OT they got in the 4th Round (Bryant) is a monster. He was also the LT to Membou at RT on the same team. This guy is no slouch. I expect him to be the swing Tackle before the seasons ends and the eventual RT once we get a season or two out of Moses. Or he is the LT in a year next to your alligator boy.
And they also got the C from Georgia who looks like their future there. Do they get him if they trade up for Simmons? Who knows.
2. I am going to give Elliot Wolf a pass for last season. I heard two insiders today (on different shows) say that they have sources who confirm that Wolf was holding Mayo's hand on just about everything last season. Even daily practice schedules. He was performing double duty as the HC advisor/assistant.
Maybe it's a crock and Wolf releasing these reports. But it rings true. Mayo seemed clueless. Last year was a disaster. Blame Kraft for his idiotic Mayo succession plan.
Simmons had questions at both injury and attitude/effort. There are no reports of them trying to move up at this point so there is no failure. They played the board the way it fell and it’s pretty clear from the rest of the draft that they wanted to add capitol, not trade it away. They added a c/g with flexibility and still have like 5 holdovers that will compete at LG. They have to feel they’ll get a reasonable starter out of that group
This, and it also appears Eliot was in over his head running the entire draft on his own.
That's my point. Black Mayo needed his dick held all season. Wolf was the dick holder.
Yeah, they usually do.
