2025 Draft thread

In a down year for draft talent, this guy should be on the Patriots "worth drafting at #4" list.
I like the player but I still think it's too high. If we had adequately filled our need at LT via FA/trade then maybe a luxury pick like that makes sense.. But now it looks like we need to go LT/WR/C/OG/RB/K in some sort of order, likely LT at #4
 
I like the player but I still think it's too high. If we had adequately filled our need at LT via FA/trade then maybe a luxury pick like that makes sense.. But now it looks like we need to go LT/WR/C/OG/RB/K in some sort of order, likely LT at #4

We'll have to continue to disagree:


It's a two player draft, the Patriots don't have the WRs they need, and we know that McDaniels can handle two TE offenses.

So I don't see any reason why a top TE shouldn't be on the table there.
 
We'll have to continue to disagree:


It's a two player draft, the Patriots don't have the WRs they need, and we know that McDaniels can handle two TE offenses.

So I don't see any reason why a top TE shouldn't be on the table there.
That's fine. I just think BPA going down the list I'd have 3 or 4 players ahead of him, not including Hunter/Carter.

This may not be an elite WR class, but there are still some really talented guys that can be had in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
 
That's fine. I just think BPA going down the list I'd have 4 or 5 players ahead of him, not including Hunter/Carter.

This may not be an elite WR class, but there are still some really talented guys that can be had in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.


If this team takes a WR in the second round, again, we may see the return of tar and feathers in Massachusetts.
 
And anyone who still wants to use #4 to actually draft somebody with it is a fucking m-m-moron.
 
Reading y'all talking about trading down and saying, basically, that nobody's worth taking at #4. So let me ask this:

Just how many picks do you think are actually first round quality? How many are actually top 10 quality>
 
Reading y'all talking about trading down and saying, basically, that nobody's worth taking at #4. So let me ask this:

Just how many picks do you think are actually first round quality? How many are actually top 10 quality>

Don't ask me ... I wing it every time when it comes to the draft sims.

I think it will come down to finding a trade partner who wants to move up to take a guy we should be taking ourselves.
 
Reading y'all talking about trading down and saying, basically, that nobody's worth taking at #4. So let me ask this:

Just how many picks do you think are actually first round quality? How many are actually top 10 quality>

My understanding is there are two elite players then a bunch of 1st rounders who are more or less equally seen.

If the two QB's go top 3, you pick the elite player who fell to you. If they are both gone, you trade down a bit and pick up some more draft capital. Then pick someone at 6, 8, 10, wherever who is more or less the same player you'd pick at 4.

But that's just my expert opinion as someone who didn't watch a single down of college football this season.
 
If they are both gone, you trade down a bit and pick up some more draft capital. Then pick someone at 6, 8, 10, wherever who is more or less the same player you'd pick at 4.


That's fine, if you can afford to go BPA. That's not fine if you need to target positions in an already thin draft. If you drop to (just tossing out numbers as examples, not certainty for draft range) 10 and both available LTs get taken, you're boned if you needed an LT. And this draft not only just has the two "elite" prospects, it's thin on the next level prospects, too. In fact, I've seen multiple analyses that say that there aren't even 15 legit first round prospects in this draft.

That's why I'm asking the questions. Trading down is fine, theoretically. But, if the team finds itself needing to draft WR or LT, trading down my well end up meaning missing out.
 
That's fine. I just think BPA going down the list I'd have 3 or 4 players ahead of him, not including Hunter/Carter.

This may not be an elite WR class, but there are still some really talented guys that can be had in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
Something like this? Again, spit-balling, but Restrepo sounds like an Edelman type, OT is good at 38, and three high picks next year

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My understanding is there are two elite players then a bunch of 1st rounders who are more or less equally seen.

If the two QB's go top 3, you pick the elite player who fell to you. If they are both gone, you trade down a bit and pick up some more draft capital. Then pick someone at 6, 8, 10, wherever who is more or less the same player you'd pick at 4.

But that's just my expert opinion as someone who didn't watch a single down of college football this season.
Yes this is my thinking on this as well. I've heard some of the PPP guys saying the same thing in recent videos so it's not just us.
 
That's fine, if you can afford to go BPA. That's not fine if you need to target positions in an already thin draft. If you drop to (just tossing out numbers as examples, not certainty for draft range) 10 and both available LTs get taken, you're boned if you needed an LT. And this draft not only just has the two "elite" prospects, it's thin on the next level prospects, too. In fact, I've seen multiple analyses that say that there aren't even 15 legit first round prospects in this draft.

That's why I'm asking the questions. Trading down is fine, theoretically. But, if the team finds itself needing to draft WR or LT, trading down my well end up meaning missing out.
The trade down scenario I like is one we've talked about before, involving one of the QB's being there at #4 and us making a deal to move down just a few spots, #6 Vegas, or #9 NO. I don't like a big trade down. I think at either spot you're getting one of the top 3 tackles if wanted, or they could grab the WR or TE there and pick OT at #38.
 
Yes this is my thinking on this as well. I've heard some of the PPP guys saying the same thing in recent videos so it's not just us.



The best situation for the Patriots seems to be that Hunter tests well wit his measurables and both QBs go in the top 3, along with Carter. That would put the Patriots in position to either take the elite player or maybe being more able to drop just a spot or two while picking up more draft capital. Every other trade scenario is dicey as heck.
 
Something like this? Again, spit-balling, but Restrepo sounds like an Edelman type, OT is good at 38, and three high picks next year

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As i said in the above post, I'm not a fan of moving out of the 1st altogether. I'd like to stay in the top 10. I like your draft though, even with the trade down.
 
The best situation for the Patriots seems to be that Hunter tests well wit his measurables and both QBs go in the top 3, along with Carter. That would put the Patriots in position to either take the elite player or maybe being more able to drop just a spot or two while picking up more draft capital. Every other trade scenario is dicey as heck.
I agree, I have been sold on Hunter for a while... just with the amount of time we have leading up to the draft it's fun to go through what seem like possible scenarios. With the Pats not really addressing WR I'd like to see what Hunter can do focusing there, he'd absolutely add some explosive plays.
 
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