A bitch thread

and fuck that kids teammates too, just sit there and watch their teammate get stomped on and do nothing... no sports team i grew up playing for had a bunch of cowards like that on them


Kids are taught not to intervene. Hell, even at the professional level, players get punished for helping their teammates.
 
Kids are taught not to intervene. Hell, even at the professional level, players get punished for helping their teammates.

that type of head stomp could in theory kill someone, but definitely could cause concussion, broken jaw, broken teeth, broken eye socket/blindness, etc

its lethal levels of force, if someone were trying to stomp on your head you could use a gun to shoot them in self defense
 
that type of head stomp could in theory kill someone, but definitely could cause concussion, broken jaw, broken teeth, broken eye socket/blindness, etc

its lethal levels of force, if someone were trying to stomp on your head you could use a gun to shoot them in self defense


I'm not defending the action. I was just pointing out that our insane society has decided that punishing those who try to help is the way to go in athletics (and, often, in a lot more places than just there). Realistically, we are turning our children, and thus adults as they age, into pussies on purpose, and via both civil and legal regulation.
 
I'm not defending the action. I was just pointing out that our insane society has decided that pushing those who try to help is the way to go in athletics (and, often, in a lot more places than just there). Realistically, we are turning our children, and thus adults as they age, into pussies on purpose, and via both civil and legal regulation.

yea unfortunately you're right

the video of that little kid fallen thru the ice in a frozen pond and have a bunch of people standing around watching... hoping 911 makes it there in time

its terrifying to watch.. imagine that were your little kid, and a bunch of people just stood around 5 feet from him watching him slowly die while he screams for help

we're so lost as a people right now
 


This is from the article and I think it's really important:

"The lawsuit also claims that training teaches recruits that excessive force is “officially tolerated, and indeed culturally expected.”

Moses’ lawyers, John Holland and Darold Killmer, say that mindset has nurtured a violent police force and led to lawsuits costing Denver millions of dollars.

“Fight Day both encourages Denver police to engage in brutality and to be indifferent to the injuries they inflict,” Holland said.


DENVER (AP) — A police recruit who had to have both of his legs amputated after losing consciousness and repeatedly collapsing during fight training at Denver’s police academy is suing those who allegedly forced him to continue the “barbaric hazing ritual” after paramedics ignored warning signs.

Victor Moses, 29, alleges in a lawsuit filed Tuesday that aggressive officers knocked him down multiple times in the second round of “fight day" last year, with one of them shoving him off the mat and causing him to hit his head on the floor. He said he was pressured to continue, with officers picking him up and setting him back on his feet, before paramedics standing by were asked to check him out, the lawsuit said.

Moses told them he had the sickle cell trait, which puts him at an increased risk of medical complications from high-intensity exercise. He also said he had very low blood pressure and complained that his legs were cramping, according to the lawsuit. The symptoms are danger signs for people with his condition.

Nevertheless, paramedics cleared Moses to return to training, which the suit alleges was a decision made to support the police.

The type of training described in the lawsuit is common in the United States and helps prepare recruits for scenarios they could face on patrol, said Ian Adams, an assistant professor of criminology and criminal justice at the University of South Carolina. Minor injuries are common and occasionally recruits die, often because of an underlying medical condition, he said.

Both the Denver Police Department and Denver Health, the public hospital that employed the paramedics, declined to comment on the allegations, saying they could not address pending litigation.

“Safety and well-being is a top priority for Denver Health and its paramedics,” the hospital said in a statement.

A telephone call and email seeking comment was also left with the city attorney's office.

All recruits must complete the training to prepare them physically and mentally for fights they could encounter on the street. It includes having recruits punch and kick a dummy or a trainer holding pads, using a padded baton to fight trainers, wrestling and practicing to arrest a suspect who assaults them, according to the lawsuit.

The legal action alleges the practice is an unnecessarily violent rite of passage that recruits have to endure to be accepted into the police “fraternity." It notes that other recruits suffered injuries before Moses started his drills, including one person whose nose was broken.

The lawsuit also claims that training teaches recruits that excessive force is “officially tolerated, and indeed culturally expected.”

Moses’ lawyers, John Holland and Darold Killmer, say that mindset has nurtured a violent police force and led to lawsuits costing Denver millions of dollars.

“Fight Day both encourages Denver police to engage in brutality and to be indifferent to the injuries they inflict,” Holland said.

The lawsuit claims paramedics cleared Moses to continue the training on Jan. 6, 2023 even though he was not able to stand or walk to the next round — wrestling. Instead, a trainer came to Moses and got on top of him. The recruit soon said he could not breathe, became unresponsive and was taken to the hospital, according to the lawsuit.

“If this had been a football game or boxing match, the head injury and losses of consciousness would have ended any continued participation or fighting immediately,” Moses' lawyers argue.

The lawsuit alleges that Moses was essentially in police custody after becoming incapacitated and the victim of excessive force as the training continued without him being able to consent.

Moses used to spend free time going to breweries and hiking with friends, but now he is largely confined to his apartment in Denver. He is learning to walk again with prosthetics, but cannot electronically charge them himself because of damage also done to his hands. Despite taking powerful opioids, he lives with constant phantom pain from the limbs he no longer has.

The former rental car manager wanted to be a police officer because he thought it would be a more interesting and meaningful career for someone who enjoys connecting with people.

When Moses was eventually taken to the hospital, his lawyers say police mislead doctors by not revealing that he had hit his head on the floor, compromising the care doctors were able to provide.

Moses remained in the hospital for over four months, had both of his legs amputated below the knee and underwent surgery in July to try to restore his grip in one hand.

Now he wonders what would have happened if police had just stopped the training.

“I more than likely could still have my legs. I more than likely could still have my sanity. I could have been a police officer had you just not hazed us,” he told The Associated Press.

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If they're doing this to each other, what do you think they'll do to you? These are their "brothers" and you're less than nobody to them.
 
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MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) — Agolia Moore was shocked to get a call telling her that her son was found dead in an Alabama prison of a suspected drug overdose. She had spoken to him to earlier that evening and he was doing fine, talking about his hope to move into the prison’s honor dorm, Moore said.

When his body arrived at the funeral home, after undergoing a state autopsy, the undertaker told the family that the 43-year-old’s internal organs were missing. The family said they had not given permission for his organs to be retained or destroyed.

Moore said her daughter and other son drove four hours to the University of Alabama at Birmingham, where the autopsy had been performed, and picked up a sealed red bag containing what they were told was their brother’s organs. They buried the bag along with him.

“We should not be here. This is something out of science fiction. Any human would not believe that something so barbaric is happening,” Kelvin’s brother Simone Moore, said Tuesday.

Six families, who had loved ones die in the state prison system, have filed lawsuits against the commissioner of the Alabama Department of Corrections and others, saying their family members’ bodies were returned to them missing internal organs after undergoing state-ordered autopsies. The families crowded into a Montgomery courtroom Tuesday for a brief status conference in the consolidated litigation.

“We will be seeking more answers about what happened to these organs and where they ended up,” Lauren Faraino, an attorney representing the families said after court. Faraino said there are additional families who are affected.

In one of the lawsuits, another family said a funeral home in 2021 similarly told them that “none of the organs had been returned” with their father’s body after his death while incarcerated.

The lawsuits also state that a group of UAB medical students in 2018 became concerned that a disproportionate number of the specimens they encountered during their medical training originated from people who had died in prison. They questioned if families of incarcerated people had the same ability as other patients' families to request that organs be returned with the body.

UAB, in an earlier statement about the dispute, said that the Alabama Department of Corrections was “responsible for obtaining proper authorizations from the appropriate legal representative of the deceased.” “UAB does not harvest organs from bodies of inmates for research as has been reported in media reports,” the statement read.

UAB spokesperson Hannah Echols said in an emailed statement Tuesday that sometimes that organs are kept for additional testing if a pathologist believes it is needed to help determine the cause of death.

The University of Alabama System, which includes UAB, is a defendant in the lawsuits. Lawyers for the university system indicated they will file a motion to dismiss the lawsuits. UAB no longer does autopsies for the state prison system.

The Alabama Department of Corrections did not immediately respond to an email seeking comment.
 

A K-9 police dog has died from heat exhaustion inside a Missouri police car after an air conditioning malfunction.

Vader, a four-year-old dog working for the Arnold Police Department, was left inside a patrol car with the AC running on Wednesday. The AC system broke as Vader was trapped inside, the department said in a statement. Arnold, a suburb of St Louis, hit 93 degrees Fahrenheit (33C) on Wednesday with a heat index of 110F (43C), according to the National Weather Service.

Arnold police cars are equipped with heat sensors that alert officers if their car reaches a certain temperature, the department said. However the sensor failed, and the handler never received a phone notification.

Vader’s handler eventually found him and took him to a vet clinic. While he initially showed signs of improvement, the department said, the veterinarian eventually determined there were no more treatments available and the dog died. It is unclear how long Vader was inside the car before his handler returned.

“The Arnold Police Department is investigating this tragedy to determine what went wrong,” the department said. “Please keep Vader’s handler, his family, and the members of the APD in your thoughts and prayers as we mourn the loss of our K-9 partner.”

Four-year-old K-9 dog Vader, pictured, died of heat exhaustion after his handler left him in a patrol car and the air conditioning broke (Arnold Police Department)

Four-year-old K-9 dog Vader, pictured, died of heat exhaustion after his handler left him in a patrol car and the air conditioning broke (Arnold Police Department)
It is common practice for handlers to leave K-9 dogs in their cars with the AC running, the department added.

Community members had mixed reactions to the news on social media, with some critical of the police department.

“The heat index was over 100 degrees that day,” one user wrote. “That poor poor dog. My heart breaks for him.”

“I’m sorry for this poor boy,” another wrote. “Would it not be just like a child or another animal in a vehicle of a non police officer? That the pup should have NOT been left in the car.”

Others defended the handler and pointed out the technology failure. “To the people responding negatively, his handler did nothing wrong,” one user commented. “It was the system that failed. Realize that no one wanted anything like this to happen to K-9 Vader.”

Vader isn’t the first K-9 dog to die of heat exhaustion.

Last year, at least ten police dogs died as a driver transported them from Chicago’s O’Hare Airport to Michigan City, Indiana. The driver was caught in a two-hour traffic delay when the AC unit inside the cargo area failed, causing the German shepherds to die of heat-related illness on a 91F (32C) day.

“I don’t think any veterinarian would’ve signed off on their health certificate given the temperature and the exposure that those pets would’ve been under,” Jenny Webber, the executive director of the Hobart, Indiana Humane Society, said at the time.
 
ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (KRQE) – An Albuquerque woman was sentenced for child abuse on Friday while her husband, a former Albuquerque Police Department officer, awaits his trial. Jacquelyn and Nicholas Schmidt became foster parents to a two-year-old boy in 2021 but the child was removed from their custody four months later.

Doctors noticed several signs of abuse from extensive bruising to broken bones. Court records showed Jacquelyn Schmidt admitted in texts she was struggling as a foster mom. They also show she claimed the child was hurting himself but she was pinching, pushing, and spanking the child. Neither parent notified the New Mexico Children, Youth, and Families Department about any of the boy’s injuries.

“From the very beginning to say things like, I hate this child, I hurt this child, I want to hurt this child, she was the adult. She, regardless of what her co-defendant and husband did or didn’t do, she should have gave the child back. She should have gotten help,” said Prosecutor Savannah Brandenburg-Koch.

Jacquelyn Schmidt pled guilty to three counts of child abuse and failure to report child abuse. She was sentenced to three years behind bars. Her husband was fired from APD in June 2023 after six years with the department. He filed an appeal with the department’s Personnel Board. He pled not guilty to four counts of child abuse and failure to report child abuse.
 
What the fuck are judges thinking?

Image: Shelby Township Police Department

Image: Shelby Township Police Department
A woman in Metro Detroit allegedly went on quite the spree last week when she hit multiple parked cars, rammed into police, drove directly at pedestrians and took a shortcut through a backyard. She’s back on the street today thanks to a ludicrously light bond.
Madison Forsyth sounds like she allegedly had rich full weekend, from WDIV 4:
Police said they received reports on July 21 of a car that had hit multiple parked cars and was still driving around. According to authorities, officers from the Shelby Township Police Department located the vehicle and attempted a traffic stop, but the driver instead rammed the patrol car. When another police cruiser arrived, the driver reportedly rammed that vehicle too and took off.
Police said she drove toward a group of people who had to jump out of the way to avoid being hit before driving through backyards in an effort to escape officers. The vehicle came to a stop after hitting a pole.
Police said they conducted a field sobriety test because the driver — identified by police as Forsyth — appeared to be intoxicated at the time. A breathalyzer test reportedly showed her blood alcohol content was .25, more than three times the legal limit.
Foryth was charged with “...felonious assault with a dangerous weapon, flee and elude, and operating while intoxicated,” WDIV reports. That’s quite a list of crimes, but it seems Foyth got off light with just a $500 bond. Since you only need to pay 10 percent of a bond, Foyth got to go home for all of $50.
It’s a bond that ticked off Shelby Township Police Chief Robert Shelide in particular:
“I am just as shocked that this driver wreaked havoc in Shelby Township, causing damage to multiple vehicles before driving right at innocent civilians, thankful no one was injured,” Shelide said. “I was stunned to hear that Forsyth was allowed to leave after paying such a low bond after all the damage and danger she inflicted.”
I hate to agree with a cop, but yeah, what the hell? That’s nothing, especially when Forsyth is facing up to 15 years in prison, according to the Detroit News. With the way sentencing guidelines work, she will more than likely not serve the maximum sentence as it seems Forsyth has a clear record otherwise, but still, there’s likely going to be serious jail time.
Drunk drivers are a menace on our roads and especially to cops. Earlier this year a cop barely survived a drunk driver slamming into his active traffic stop in Virginia.
 
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