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I don’t disagree. But one made the play in the biggest game and the other dropped it. Unfair or not, that’s life as an athlete.


Again, Edelman had his drops too, and Welker played well in SBs. It's not about him dropping/not dropping. It's actually about a zero blitz, and it's about 2011's defense, and it's about him going to his third SB in Denver instead of New England.



Welker's SBs:

14 targets, 11 catches, 103 yards in 2007
8 targets, 7 catches, 60 yards in 2011
10 targets, 8 catches, 84 yards in 2014



Edelman's Atlanta SB:


13 targets, 5 catches, 87 yards in 2017
 
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Playoff choker Welker was useless.

Edelman was vastly superior.


Nonsense. And by nonsense, I mean that your post is actually retarded and should be on the short bus.
 
Again, Edelman had his drops too, and Welker played well in SBs. It's not about him dropping/not dropping. It's actually about a zero blitz, and it's about 2011's defense, and it's about him winning his SB in Denver instead of New England.



Welker's SBs:

14 targets, 11 catches, 103 yards in 2007
8 targets, 7 catches, 60 yards in 2011
10 catches, 8 targets, 84 yards in 2014



Edelman's Atlanta SB:


13 targets, 5 catches, 87 yards in 2017
Welker didn't win a SB in Denver. He has the same number of SBs as I do, but he played significantly more games in the NFL than I have.
 
Welker didn't win a SB in Denver. He has the same number of SBs as I do, but he played significantly more games in the NFL than I have.


Excuse me, and you're correct. I meant that he got to his 3rd SB in Denver, not New England. I corrected the post.
 
Again, Edelman had his drops too, and Welker played well in SBs. It's not about him dropping/not dropping. It's actually about a zero blitz, and it's about 2011's defense, and it's about him going to his third SB in Denver instead of New England.



Welker's SBs:

14 targets, 11 catches, 103 yards in 2007
8 targets, 7 catches, 60 yards in 2011
10 catches, 8 targets, 84 yards in 2014



Edelman's Atlanta SB:


13 targets, 5 catches, 87 yards in 2017
Why did you leave out 2014 and 2018?
 
Why did you leave out 2014 and 2018?


Because it's the ATL game that people are thinking about when they talk about Edelman's SBs. Yet Welker never had a 13 target/5 catch game in any SB he played.

The 7 misses for Edelman just in the ATL game is more than Welker had in all 3 of his SB appearances combined (26 catches on 32 targets).
 
Because it's the ATL game that people are thinking about when they talk about Edelman's SBs. Yet Welker never had a 13 target/5 catch game in any SB he played.

The 7 misses for Edelman just in the ATL game is more than Welker had in all 3 of his SB appearances combined (26 catches on 32 targets).
You should always include the full body of work when running a comparison instead of limiting it to a sample size that fits your point. He was a monster in both 2014 and 2018. Did Welker ever hold onto one of these in the biggest game?


View: https://youtu.be/AGTLUVRR5vQ?si=CgUd63F2gv4O1fOp


I thought not. And, again, I’m a Welker fan. But Pats fans are going to remember Edelman more fondly, and their reasons for doing so are more than valid.
 
You should always include the full body of work when running a comparison instead of limiting it to a sample size that fits your point. He was a monster in both 2014 and 2018. Did Welker ever hold onto one of these in the biggest game?


View: https://youtu.be/AGTLUVRR5vQ?si=CgUd63F2gv4O1fOp


I thought not. And, again, I’m a Welker fan. But Pats fans are going to remember Edelman more fondly, and their reasons for doing so are more than valid.



You can't say Welker didn't make the catches in the playoffs when he had the superior catch percentage in the playoffs. You can't say that Edelman didn't make drops when Edelman had drops and failed connections. But those things don't register because people just forgive Edelman because they won.


That's the point. The reasons may be "valid" as you put it, because the team won, but they're not because Edelman was the better player, which was the issue.
 
You can't say Welker didn't make the catches in the playoffs when he had the superior catch percentage in the playoffs. You can't say that Edelman didn't make drops when Edelman had drops and failed connections. But those things don't register because people just forgive Edelman because they won.


That's the point. The reasons may be "valid" as you put it, because the team won, but they're not because Edelman was the better player, which was the issue.

Jew all nose why Deus is so passionate about Welker over Edelman. He likes Welker but doesn't kike Edelman for some reason.
 
You can't say Welker didn't make the catches in the playoffs when he had the superior catch percentage in the playoffs.

Never said that. What I did say is that he never made the catches that mattered the most. Do you disagree with that?

You can't say that Edelman didn't make drops when Edelman had drops and failed connections.

Never said that either.

But those things don't register because people just forgive Edelman because they won.

Correct. And Edelman made some HUGE plays when they mattered the most in order to make that happen. Welker dropped the Lombardi.

That's the point. The reasons may be "valid" as you put it, because the team won, but they're not because Edelman was the better player, which was the issue.

I think they both deserve to be in the Pats HoF. You’re smoking crack if you’d put Welker on a hypothetical Mt. Rushmore for the Pats over Edelman.
 
Regardless of what you think of Kyles, this is simply a list of the starting level players under contract for next year. Not sure how that deserves hate. It shows this team needs to be extremely busy in the offseason. I know some of you crusty old assholes would prefer professional idiots like curly-haired-boyfriend or Volin writing for your Pats but I actually prefer these younger guys who actually know a little something about the sport.

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Regardless of what you think of Kyles, this is simply a list of the starting level players under contract for next year. Not sure how that deserves hate. It shows this team needs to be extremely busy in the offseason. I know some of you crusty old assholes would prefer professional idiots like curly-haired-boyfriend or Volin writing for your Pats but I actually prefer younger guys who actually know a little something about the sport.

I respect your candor.
 
Regardless of what you think of Kyles, this is simply a list of the starting level players under contract for next year. Not sure how that deserves hate. It shows this team needs to be extremely busy in the offseason. I know some of you crusty old assholes would prefer professional idiots like curly-haired-boyfriend or Volin writing for your Pats but I actually prefer these younger guys who actually know a little something about the sport.

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I don't want the CHB or Trolin' either.
 
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