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[Lord Mayo]

It beats working at Taco Bell

Where else are they going to work if Dad is out of the league this year?

I think Steve has proven himself, its just that people seem to focus on him being BB's son and are overly harsh IMO about it.. tons of famous coaches brought their sons into the league to develop them...

One thing im sure of, is Belichick was probably harder on both of his sons than he was with others... specifically to make sure no one could use nepotism or question their abilities

We've had an awesome defense the last several years, and our secondary has been a strength every single year.. Steve has done a good job

 

[Lord Mayo]

My position from the beginning:


BB blew it on the tackles
BB blew it with Jakobi/JuJu
BB blew it with Hopkins

And, had he gotten those right, Jones might not have imploded. And that's "might", because it's possible that he was already too damaged to recover in New England, and it's even possible that he's being fixing of any kind, in any place. It's also "might" because Strange has been garbage for a lot of his time in New England, and he was a real problem for the line at the start of the season, and that pressure up the middle might still have been enough to finish off Jones.

None of that excuses Jones, or O'Brien, or Kraft, or anyone else. But Belichick's screwups were easy to see coming a mile away, massive, and mostly avoidable.

Letting D. Hopkins leave for what amounted to a small amount of money was so fucking aggrivating

A lot of people thought he was washed up because he was injured previous year (after going most of his career without many injuries), and then had the 4-6 game suspension to start the next year

He's still got it, as he proved in Tennessee.. and that was the exact type of WR we needed to help this offense out, but instead we got JJSS and Parker

 

[LordSensei1958]

Letting D. Hopkins leave for what amounted to a small amount of money was so fucking aggrivating

A lot of people thought he was washed up because he was injured previous year (after going most of his career without many injuries), and then had the 4-6 game suspension to start the next year

He's still got it, as he proved in Tennessee.. and that was the exact type of WR we needed to help this offense out, but instead we got JJSS and Parker

The main reason DHop didn't sign with the Patriots was taxes.

It was largely due to taxes, according to NFL Network personality and Super Bowl champion Jason McCourty, who played for the Titans and Patriots as a defensive back during his career.

McCourty, who was at the Titans camp this past weekend, spoke to Hopkins about choosing Tennessee in free agency and said that the five-time All-Pro receiver didn’t have a hard time making his final decision for his new team.


View: https://twitter.com/JasonMcCourty/status/1685370558282612742


A lot of NFL players are smart with their money, and Hopkins happens to be one of them. The reason he chose to play in Nashville is because of state income tax, which Tennessee has none of.

McCourty emphasized the significant impact of income tax on high-salary NFL players’ choices for new teams. Tax variations affect contract values; for instance, Massachusetts, with a five percent income tax, will increase to nine percent due to the recently passed “Millionaire’s Tax” for earnings exceeding $1 million.

The decision seems even smarter when you consider the fact that Florida and Texas don’t have any state income tax either. See, NFL players must pay taxes for every state that they play in, which means they’re subject to different tax laws on road games. Fortunately for Hopkins, he’s playing at the Jacksonville Jaguars and Houston Texans every year.

DeAndre Hopkins believes Mike Vrabel will ‘maximize my potential’

“We laughed about the fact that there’s no state tax in Tennessee,” McCourty said Monday on “Good Morning Football. ”He’s back in the AFC South, you guys. None. There’s none in Texas and there’s none in Florida. They are a lot of games where, maybe this contract isn’t as much, but he’ll be making the most of it.”

Hopkins signed a two-year, $26 million deal with up to $32 million in incentives earlier this month. If all goes well, he will see a very good chunk of that over his tenure with the Titans.

 

[LordSensei1958]

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[Lord Mayo]

The main reason DHop didn't sign with the Patriots was taxes.

It was largely due to taxes, according to NFL Network personality and Super Bowl champion Jason McCourty, who played for the Titans and Patriots as a defensive back during his career.

McCourty, who was at the Titans camp this past weekend, spoke to Hopkins about choosing Tennessee in free agency and said that the five-time All-Pro receiver didn’t have a hard time making his final decision for his new team.


View: https://twitter.com/JasonMcCourty/status/1685370558282612742


A lot of NFL players are smart with their money, and Hopkins happens to be one of them. The reason he chose to play in Nashville is because of state income tax, which Tennessee has none of.

McCourty emphasized the significant impact of income tax on high-salary NFL players’ choices for new teams. Tax variations affect contract values; for instance, Massachusetts, with a five percent income tax, will increase to nine percent due to the recently passed “Millionaire’s Tax” for earnings exceeding $1 million.

The decision seems even smarter when you consider the fact that Florida and Texas don’t have any state income tax either. See, NFL players must pay taxes for every state that they play in, which means they’re subject to different tax laws on road games. Fortunately for Hopkins, he’s playing at the Jacksonville Jaguars and Houston Texans every year.


“We laughed about the fact that there’s no state tax in Tennessee,” McCourty said Monday on “Good Morning Football. ”He’s back in the AFC South, you guys. None. There’s none in Texas and there’s none in Florida. They are a lot of games where, maybe this contract isn’t as much, but he’ll be making the most of it.”

Hopkins signed a two-year, $26 million deal with up to $32 million in incentives earlier this month. If all goes well, he will see a very good chunk of that over his tenure with the Titans.

they could have increased their offer to make up for the loss in taxes

that increase to 9% is insane... that will definitely make it harder to attract top free agents, we'll essentially have to overpay by whatever that 4% increase in taxes makes to subsidize it, or they'll go elsewhere

The dynasty is over, which means the allure and draw of free agents is over as well. We're just another team for them to consider, and with 9% state income tax, unless the pats are offering over market value they'll go somewhere they're taxed less, a more talented roster and better weather

but for Dhopkins, we were swimming in salary cap space and desperately needed help at WR... so we could have increased his offer to offset those taxes very easily


its sick really when you think about it.. that increase to 9% will continue to drive people away from MA... and the money will be used to push more DEI campaigns, forever wars, etc lol... we fund the machine that is destroying our country

 

[LordSensei1958]

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[LordSensei1958]

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[HSanders]

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i was neutral on josh until i saw what a good job he did with cassel in 08.

 

[LordSensei1958]

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[TommyD420]

i was neutral on josh until i saw what a good job he did with cassel in 08.

I will say though, that was now 15 years ago. His run with Mac Jones was good, for a while, but really fell off a cliff.

 

[one-if-by-sea]

I will say though, that was now 15 years ago. His run with Mac Jones was good, for a while, but really fell off a cliff.

It is tough when Mac can't throw to the sidelines or thread the needle down the middle or throw a back shoulder pass. When defenses put 8, even 9, defenders in the box, Mac couldn't exploit the man coverages. The Pats tried all kinds of stuff, but Mac is limited. Defenses never stopped the 8 or 9 guys in the box because Mac could not defeat it, and rushing 5 made Mac panic early. Not sure what a coach can do with that situation.

 

[TommyD420]

It is tough when Mac can't throw to the sidelines or thread the needle down the middle or throw a back shoulder pass. When defenses put 8, even 9, defenders in the box, Mac couldn't exploit the man coverages. The Pats tried all kinds of stuff, but Mac is limited. Defenses never stopped the 8 or 9 guys in the box because Mac could not defeat it, and rushing 5 made Mac panic early. Not sure what a coach can do with that situation.

Well, I fear the next OC is going to have to figure that out.

 

[Deus Irae]

Mac Jones' implosion started long before last year.

Yeah, it started the year before. That was the year the team went with Patricia at O.C.


You're going to just have to give up the Don Quixote thing with regards to this topic.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

The main reason DHop didn't sign with the Patriots was taxes.

It was largely due to taxes, according to NFL Network personality and Super Bowl champion Jason McCourty, who played for the Titans and Patriots as a defensive back during his career.

McCourty, who was at the Titans camp this past weekend, spoke to Hopkins about choosing Tennessee in free agency and said that the five-time All-Pro receiver didn’t have a hard time making his final decision for his new team.


View: https://twitter.com/JasonMcCourty/status/1685370558282612742


A lot of NFL players are smart with their money, and Hopkins happens to be one of them. The reason he chose to play in Nashville is because of state income tax, which Tennessee has none of.

McCourty emphasized the significant impact of income tax on high-salary NFL players’ choices for new teams. Tax variations affect contract values; for instance, Massachusetts, with a five percent income tax, will increase to nine percent due to the recently passed “Millionaire’s Tax” for earnings exceeding $1 million.

The decision seems even smarter when you consider the fact that Florida and Texas don’t have any state income tax either. See, NFL players must pay taxes for every state that they play in, which means they’re subject to different tax laws on road games. Fortunately for Hopkins, he’s playing at the Jacksonville Jaguars and Houston Texans every year.


“We laughed about the fact that there’s no state tax in Tennessee,” McCourty said Monday on “Good Morning Football. ”He’s back in the AFC South, you guys. None. There’s none in Texas and there’s none in Florida. They are a lot of games where, maybe this contract isn’t as much, but he’ll be making the most of it.”

Hopkins signed a two-year, $26 million deal with up to $32 million in incentives earlier this month. If all goes well, he will see a very good chunk of that over his tenure with the Titans.

If it’s about taxes, then it just reinforces that the Patriots cheaped out. Players are only taxed for games played in-state, which is half, so we’re talking about less than 5%.

Also these articles always refer to income tax with some dumb mic drop. How does Tennessee exist as an entity then with no state revenue? Estate tax, sales tax, fees, many additional charges in lieu of income tax.

 

[TommyD420]

Yeah, it started the year before. That was the year the team went with Patricia at O.C.


You're going to just have to give up the Don Quixote thing with regards to this topic.

One of us will be proven right in the future, that's the beauty of football - it's all words, until the results bear out on the field.

 

[Dingleberry]

If it’s about taxes, then it just reinforces that the Patriots cheaped out. Players are only taxed for games played in-state, which is half, so we’re talking about less than 5%.

Also these articles always refer to income tax with some dumb mic drop. How does Tennessee exist as an entity then with no state revenue? Estate tax, sales tax, fees, many additional charges in lieu of income tax.

Many states tax A LOT less than the People's Republic of Massachusetts because they are not controlled by generations of state "workers" sucking off the government tit. And many states do not spend to the extent of Massachusetts without regard for the people funding them.

Does Massachusetts not also have all those taxes that Tennessee has in addition to its income tax?

Somehow, New Hampshire gets by without a sales tax or income tax.

 

[HSanders]

If it’s about taxes, then it just reinforces that the Patriots cheaped out. Players are only taxed for games played in-state, which is half, so we’re talking about less than 5%.

Also these articles always refer to income tax with some dumb mic drop. How does Tennessee exist as an entity then with no state revenue? Estate tax, sales tax, fees, many additional charges in lieu of income tax.

yes, their sales tax is high in tn iirc

 

[Cupofjoe1962]

I think Steve has proven himself, its just that people seem to focus on him being BB's son and are overly harsh IMO about it.. tons of famous coaches brought their sons into the league to develop them...

One thing im sure of, is Belichick was probably harder on both of his sons than he was with others... specifically to make sure no one could use nepotism or question their abilities

We've had an awesome defense the last several years, and our secondary has been a strength every single year.. Steve has done a good job

I don’t see teams lining up to out bid each other for the Belichick kids.

Even Shula’s kid got a head coach job based solely on his name.

 

[LordSensei1958]

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[LordSensei1958]

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