Belichick agrees to become Head Coach of UNC

[Dingleberry]

Bill belichick never coached anywhere but the pros. he started out I believe with the baltimore colts. And I'm pretty sure he got that job because of his father's connections.
Listen I get it. I get as irritated as other people when people get jobs because of who they know or who they're related to(to me,that's the same thing). I think that's happened to everybody in every profession. but if the person turns out to be competent, then it's fine. the problem with it is if the person sucks ass at the job and you need to fire him or get rid of him. does that ever happen? probably not often enough
*edit*@Dingleberry said it better!

Doesn't he always?

 

[Kontradiction]

Bill belichick never coached anywhere but the pros. he started out I believe with the baltimore colts. And I'm pretty sure he got that job because of his father's connections.

Belichick was a career mediocrity as a HC and was likely on his way to getting fired here in 2002 until Mo Lewis did him a favor. You’re not exactly making a great case for nepotism here.

Listen I get it. I get as irritated as other people when people get jobs because of who they know or who they're related to(to me,that's the same thing). I think that's happened to everybody in every profession. but if the person turns out to be competent, then it's fine. the problem with it is if the person sucks ass at the job and you need to fire him or get rid of him. does that ever happen? probably not often enough
*edit*@Dingleberry said it better!

And it certainly wouldn’t happen with daddy dearest as his boss.

 

[HSanders]

Not saying that. Just saying he’s going to hear the nepotism shit, and rightfully so, when he runs back to daddy.



While doing really nothing to separate himself from his father.



What were Steve’s qualifications? How were they so good that he deserved a pro shot right off the bat? And why didn’t Bill just name Mayo as the DC if he wanted the kid to earn it?

Mayo had even less experience than Steve did when he joined the patriots. Steve had been coaching with the patriots for 11 years by the time he left. I would think giving mayo the DC job with absolutely no experience would be worse than giving Steve the job .he gave neither one of them the job.I would say that's kind of like hard ass towards his son.

 

[Dingleberry]

Not saying that. Just saying he’s going to hear the nepotism shit, and rightfully so, when he runs back to daddy.

I suspect he has the same "don't give a fuck" attitude about what jealous cunts say that his dad has. Good for him.

While doing really nothing to separate himself from his father.

That matters to jealous cunts.

What were Steve’s qualifications? How were they so good that he deserved a pro shot right off the bat? And why didn’t Bill just name Mayo as the DC if he wanted the kid to earn it?

His last name. But that's life. Again, should he have declined the opportunity so as not to upset fragile people? No. He also didn't have a high paying, high profile position. If he sucked, he wouldn't have lasted long. Seems he did a good job with Mayo. Those D's were good. Much better than this year. Hmmm.

Bill wanted to help his son. What dad wouldn't? Steve wanted the shot that his last name afforded him AND to work with his dad. What son wouldn't? If he ends up being shitty at this, his shelf life will be little Shula short. But he got an advantage you and I didn't get. Ya, that's life.

 

[HSanders]

Belichick was a career mediocrity as a HC and was likely on his way to getting fired here in 2002 until Mo Lewis did him a favor. You’re not exactly making a great case for nepotism here.



And it certainly wouldn’t happen with daddy dearest as his boss.

My point with bill had no experience coaching anywhere when he was given the opportunity in Baltimore. Whether you think he was a mediocre head coach or not (i disagree w/ you there),he did pay his dues as an assistant for many many years. do you really think if he were shitty he would have stayed coaching in the NFL that long? that seldom happens.
I would hope that he judged Steve's coaching ability on the time he spent with him breaking down film and everything before he even brought him onto the staff with the patriots such that he would not have to be put in the position to have to fire him. but if steve deserves to be fired and bill doesn't fire him then i will lose respect for him.

 

[Kontradiction]

Mayo had even less experience than Steve did when he joined the patriots. Steve had been coaching with the patriots for 11 years by the time he left. I would think giving mayo the DC job with absolutely no experience would be worse than giving Steve the job .he gave neither one of them the job.I would say that's kind of like hard ass towards his son.

And our defense was much better off for it. No?

I suspect he has the same "don't give a fuck" attitude about what jealous cunts say that his dad has. Good for him.



That matters to jealous cunts.

Ah yes. I’m jealous because I’m not working 12-14 hour days. That must be it.

His last name. But that's life. Again, should he have declined the opportunity so as not to upset fragile people? No. He also didn't have a high paying, high profile position. If he sucked, he wouldn't have lasted long. Seems he did a good job with Mayo. Those D's were good. Much better than this year. Hmmm.

You’re setting up a straw man here because you don’t have much of a counter argument. I never said he shouldn’t have taken the job in the first place. I’m saying he could avoid the nepotism shit if he finishes a job without daddy. He has talent at Washington to work with. Why leave? Because daddy called?

Bill wanted to help his son.

This is basically the only reason he got a coaching job.

What dad wouldn't? Steve wanted the shot that his last name afforded him AND to work with his dad. What son wouldn't? If he ends up being shitty at this, his shelf life will be little Shula short. But he got an advantage you and I didn't get. Ya, that's life.

But that’s the thing - he hasn’t sucked at Washington. They’re the 38th-ranked defense, nationally.

 

[Kontradiction]

My point with bill had no experience coaching anywhere when he was given the opportunity in Baltimore. Whether you think he was a mediocre head coach or not (i disagree w/ you there),he did pay his dues as an assistant for many many years. do you really think if he were shitty he would have stayed coaching in the NFL that long? that seldom happens.

You can disagree all you want, but he’s a sub-.500 coach without Brady. That’s the definition of a mediocrity.

I would hope that he judged Steve's coaching ability on the time he spent with him breaking down film and everything before he even brought him onto the staff with the patriots such that he would not have to be put in the position to have to fire him. but if steve deserves to be fired and bill doesn't fire him then i will lose respect for him.

Steve deserved to be fired here, and yet he wasn’t. The only logical conclusion one can arrive at is this - his last name saved his job.

 

[Dingleberry]

And our defense was much better off for it. No?



Ah yes. I’m jealous because I’m not working 12-14 hour days. That must be it.

I wasn't implying you were jealous. But your class envy is reminding me of a Harris voter.

You’re setting up a straw man here because you don’t have much of a counter argument. I never said he shouldn’t have taken the job in the first place. I’m saying he could avoid the nepotism shit if he finishes a job without daddy. He has talent at Washington to work with. Why leave? Because daddy called?

Maybe he doesn't give a fuck about nepotism claims? Maybe he wants to work with his father while he is still alive? Come on, when did you become such a Pape?

This is basically the only reason he got a coaching job.

Yes! So what? Any one of us would have taken it too.

But that’s the thing - he hasn’t sucked at Washington. They’re the 38th-ranked defense, nationally.

Right. So maybe he is a talented defensive coach. He gets to work with his father for a few more years then survive (or not) on his own. He's still very fucking young.

 

[HSanders]

Steve deserved to be fired here, and yet he wasn’t. The only logical conclusion one can arrive at is this - his last name saved his job.

Why did he deserve to be fired?

 

[Dingleberry]

Why did he deserve to be fired?

Because it's not FAAAAAIIIIIRRRRRR he got the job. His last name allowed him to take a job from a poor young coach. And probably a minority!!!!!

 

[Kontradiction]

Why did he deserve to be fired?

For the same reason Dean Pees apparently did. Maybe even more so. The precedent was set, so what was different?

 

[Kontradiction]

Perhaps, when Steve inevitably gets pigeonholed as “just Bill’s son” after the big man retires, he can cope by lying on Bill’s lap, in the fetal position, suckling on Bill’s tremendous breasts.

 

[Dingleberry]

Perhaps, when Steve inevitably gets pigeonholed as “just Bill’s son” after the big man retires, he can cope by lying on Bill’s lap, in the fetal position, suckling on Bill’s tremendous breasts.

That reads like a white flag waving.

I accept the terms of your surrender.


You could set up a GoFundMe for the poor, downtrodden young black coach who lost out due to this horrible nepotism.

 

[Kontradiction]

I wasn't implying you were jealous. But your class envy is reminding me of a Harris voter.

Heh. I’m actually rooting for Steve. That’s why I’m baffled that he’d give a good job, a good learning experience, less than a year before running back to Bill. As a hiring manager, that would make me question a new hire. If the defense performs well, he will get none of the credit at UNC.

Maybe he doesn't give a fuck about nepotism claims? Maybe he wants to work with his father while he is still alive? Come on, when did you become such a Pape?

I certainly hope he doesn’t because he will be hearing those claims for a long, long time.

Yes! So what? Any one of us would have taken it too.

I wouldn’t have. But I had to cut my own path in life, and preferred it that way.

Right. So maybe he is a talented defensive coach. He gets to work with his father for a few more years then survive (or not) on his own. He's still very fucking young

If he keeps running out on jobs less than a year after signing a contract to work with daddy, he’s going to have a hard go of it in the future. Which is the reason I asked, “why?”

 

[Kontradiction]

That reads like a white flag waving.

I accept the terms of your surrender.


You could set up a GoFundMe for the poor, downtrodden young black coach who lost out due to this horrible nepotism.

As a hardened racist, if it’s a black coach losing out, then I have no problem with it.

 

[Dingleberry]

Heh. I’m actually rooting for Steve. That’s why I’m baffled that he’d give a good job, a good learning experience, less than a year before running back to Bill. As a hiring manager, that would make me question a new hire. If the defense performs well, he will get none of the credit at UNC.

Is it really so strange to assume that Steve has the following attitude: My father is a coaching legend. My father has maybe 5 years left of coaching. My father may not have a lot more time than that period. I get to pursue coaching WHILE spending valuable time with my father.

If my career path was the same as my father's, I'd be all over that opportunity. If people talk, fuck em. The time with my father is more important than those faggots.

I certainly hope he doesn’t because he will be hearing those claims for a long, long time.

Already addressed. I don't expect this argument from you. Who gives a fuck what people say? And maybe he is THAT confident in his abilities that he is willing to take that chance.

I wouldn’t have. But I had to cut my own path in life, and preferred it that way.

HAD TO. Key words. And that has made you what you are. But you wouldn't have? Easy to say when it wasn't A choice.

If he keeps running out on jobs less than a year after signing a contract to work with daddy, he’s going to have a hard go of it in the future. Which is the reason I asked, “why?”

Already addressed. Time with dad and self confidence trumps any risk. That's speculation.

 

[Kontradiction]

Is it really so strange to assume that Steve has the following attitude: My father is a coaching legend. My father has maybe 5 years left of coaching. My father may not have a lot more time than that period. I get to pursue coaching WHILE spending valuable time with my father.

If my career path was the same as my father's, I'd be all over that opportunity. If people talk, fuck em. The time with my father is more important than those faggots.



Already addressed. I don't expect this argument from you. Who gives a fuck what people say? And maybe he is THAT confident in his abilities that he is willing to take that chance.



HAD TO. Key words. And that has made you what you are. But you wouldn't have? Easy to say when it wasn't A choice.



Already addressed. Time with dad and self confidence trumps any risk. That's speculation.

Why didn’t Steve get any NFL calls? Washington was a good job, but it’s not the NFL. If teams really thought he separated himself from his dad, why didn’t anyone call? Could it be that hiring managers in the NFL have the same attitude as hiring managers for southeastern municipal utilities?

 

[Dingleberry]

Why didn’t Steve get any NFL calls? Washington was a good job, but it’s not the NFL. If teams really thought he separated himself from his dad, why didn’t anyone call? Could it be that hiring managers in the NFL have the same attitude as hiring managers for southeastern municipal utilities?

He's 35 years old! Now he's supposed to be taking any NFL job he wants?

Could it be that he wants to prove himself in college? If the UNC D is dominant, Steve will get plenty of opportunities once his father is gone.

It's tough for you liberals to accept that even the ultra privileged have confidence in their abilities. Some of them even have abilities! Again. Wanting to spend the time wth his dad during the final years of his career is hardly weird. And Steve has already shown signs of being competent. I'm sure he's confident in what comes after this.

And if he doesn't get another job because you masked social justice warriors have decided he didn't earn anything? I'm sure he'll survive.

 

[Kontradiction]

He's 35 years old! Now he's supposed to be taking any NFL job he wants?

Another straw man. I’m asking why teams didn’t call if they thought he separated himself from his father?

Could it be that he wants to prove himself in college?

It could be, but I highly doubt it. His name would have been mentioned in NFL coaching vacancies and interviews had there been any interest. Occam’s Razor tells you it’s likely because those teams had the same questions I did. And, by the way, these will be questions he’ll have to answer in future interviews.

If the UNC D is dominant, Steve will get plenty of opportunities once his father is gone.

How so? What will have changed from the 2024 coaching cycle vs whenever BB retires from UNC? Especially when BB will get all of the accolades.

It's tough for you liberals to accept that even the ultra privileged have confidence in their abilities.

Sure. But they still need to prove it on their own. If they don’t do that, it could have disastrous consequences for the team and the broader organization, as a whole.

Some of them even have abilities! Again. Wanting to spend the time wth his dad during the final years of his career is hardly weird. And Steve has already shown signs of being competent. I'm sure he's confident in what comes after this.

And if he doesn't get another job because you masked social justice warriors have decided he didn't earn anything? I'm sure he'll survive.

There is a very good reason why nepotism is frowned upon in basically every industry. You know this, yes? Look, maybe he will go on to be a success and I’ll be wrong. I hope I am. But, leaving a good gig away from your dad, just to run back to him less than a year later, is not a good look for Steve.

 

[Dingleberry]

Another straw man. I’m asking why teams didn’t call if they thought he separated himself from his father?

So you KNOW that no NFL teams didn't contact him? Good to know, Mr Schefter.

It could be, but I highly doubt it. His name would have been mentioned in NFL coaching vacancies and interviews had there been any interest. Occam’s Razor tells you it’s likely because those teams had the same questions I did. And, by the way, these will be questions he’ll have to answer in future interviews.

My father is a coaching legend. I got to learn from him for as long as possible. Now I can take what I learned from him and put my own modern spin on it.

Not really a tough interview question.

How so? What will have changed from the 2024 coaching cycle vs whenever BB retires from UNC? Especially when BB will get all of the accolades.

Bill will get all the accolades from simple fans and simple media dipshits. Somehow, Romeo Crennell got opportunities.

Sure. But they still need to prove it on their own. If they don’t do that, it could have disastrous consequences for the team and the broader organization, as a whole.



There is a very good reason why nepotism is frowned upon in basically every industry. You know this, yes? Look, maybe he will go on to be a success and I’ll be wrong. I hope I am. But, leaving a good gig away from your dad, just to run back to him less than a year later, is not a good look for Steve.

Nepotism. Nepotism got him the original positional coach job in NE. That's life. Too bad. He isn't the first by a longshot. Apparently, he has produced since he got his unfair opportunity.

As for a good look, we are again going back to worrying about what other people think. Fuck that. I am sure he knows it's not the perfect look. If I am putting myself in his shoes, I am doing the same thing. For me, 5 years working side by side with my father is more important than doing my own thing in Washington.

I will agree that it LOOKS better for him to do it at Washington. The implication that he is running back to daddy because he can't hack it is lazy horse shit though. I would say fuck it and work with my father because life is more important than gay sports journalists or even more gay sports fans. And I'd have the confidence that my D would dominate at UNC and I might have to PROVE myself a little more because of the BB shadow. Oh well.